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PostSubject: Nut on Secondary   Nut on Secondary Icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 10:49 pm

Well I am trying to get my secondary off to clean up my grease mess (See my other thread about chattering) and I can't get this damn thing to come loose. I don't know what the hell happened. I have used 2 electric impacts and air impact, torch (gotta be careful about melting the fan). You guys got any idea? I even had a friend who is a mechanic try....he said he has never seen anything like it. I has it off prior to my 'grease incident' and put it on normally. I did use an impact but not real hard.

Guess I'm gonna have to heat the crap out of it and buy a new fan. I'm open for suggestions.


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PostSubject: Re: Nut on Secondary   Nut on Secondary Icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 10:55 pm

I have had to use a cold chisel to get them off if the impact gun wont do it. Buy a new nut.
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PostSubject: Re: Nut on Secondary   Nut on Secondary Icon_minitimeTue Jun 11, 2013 11:59 pm

I had the same issue, even put 220psi of nitrogen on a 3/4 and nothing. so I cut the nut off with a dremel very carefully and got a new nut from James. I have had it off a couple times since with no issues. My thought is the nut fused with the cheap ass metal on the fan
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PostSubject: Re: Nut on Secondary   Nut on Secondary Icon_minitimeWed Jun 12, 2013 12:45 am

i'm in the same boat. just melted some of my fan. and still no nut off.
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PostSubject: Re: Nut on Secondary   Nut on Secondary Icon_minitimeWed Jun 12, 2013 12:47 am

its gotta be something with the 08. thats 3 on 1 thread. I had to buy a new fan too.
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PostSubject: Re: Nut on Secondary   Nut on Secondary Icon_minitimeWed Jun 12, 2013 1:04 am

I've got an email into James for a price. Weird thing is it came off fine last time.

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PostSubject: Re: Nut on Secondary   Nut on Secondary Icon_minitimeWed Jun 12, 2013 1:10 am

So....if I Dremel it off what is the best way to keep from buggering up the shaft?


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PostSubject: Re: Nut on Secondary   Nut on Secondary Icon_minitimeWed Jun 12, 2013 1:41 am

I made 2 cuts just a pussy hair from the threads on the shaft then hit it with the impact and came right off
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PostSubject: Re: Nut on Secondary   Nut on Secondary Icon_minitimeWed Jun 12, 2013 2:27 am

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I made 2 cuts just a pussy hair from the threads on the shaft then hit it with the impact and came right off

Sounds like a plan to me!


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PostSubject: Re: Nut on Secondary   Nut on Secondary Icon_minitimeWed Jun 12, 2013 8:52 am

ASPENDELL ROVER wrote:
its gotta be something with the 08. thats 3 on 1 thread. I had to buy a new fan too.

Mine's asn 08.  I have never had any prob with the secondary ; but , I've had to cut the primary off twice !!...one time was my fault...NEVER NEVER use any thread-locker on them !!!
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PostSubject: Re: Nut on Secondary   Nut on Secondary Icon_minitimeWed Jun 12, 2013 11:14 pm

Well I got that rat bastard nut off.  Had to use a dremel on it but it finally broke loose.  What a pain.  As an added bonus not only had the previous owner installed a JBS Sheave but I also found out I have the purple spring on the secondary..whoot.

Funny thing was I had it apart a few weeks ago and didn't even notice.  I was even thinking of getting one.

Now I just have to wait for my parts to get here from WV.


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PostSubject: Re: Nut on Secondary   Nut on Secondary Icon_minitimeWed Jun 12, 2013 11:42 pm

glad it worked out
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PostSubject: Re: Nut on Secondary   Nut on Secondary Icon_minitimeFri Jun 14, 2013 1:10 pm

While I have everything apart waiting on my new clutch, I figured I'd do a simple service on the secondary sheave.  I removed it with no drama (thankfully).  I then watched James' video on using one of the wheels to compress the spring while loosening the nut with an impact wrench.  VERY nice idea.

My problem - where do you get a 1-13/16" socket?  Are they available for a  for a 1/2" drive?

Can I use a crescent wrench or channel locks once I get the spring compressed?
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PostSubject: Re: Nut on Secondary   Nut on Secondary Icon_minitimeFri Jun 14, 2013 1:13 pm

Try Tractor Supply for the socket.
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PostSubject: Re: Nut on Secondary   Nut on Secondary Icon_minitimeFri Jun 14, 2013 1:15 pm

sears 1/2 drive
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PostSubject: Re: Nut on Secondary   Nut on Secondary Icon_minitimeFri Jun 14, 2013 6:50 pm

northern tool for the socket  an a 1/2 to 3/4 adapter   I have the Milwaukee 1/2 impact with cord 
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PostSubject: Re: Nut on Secondary   Nut on Secondary Icon_minitimeSat Jun 15, 2013 10:36 am

You may be able to do it with pliers , or channel locks , if you have some help.  Really no need to buy a "high-dollar" socket...I use an el-cheapo 3/4 drive with a reducer to 1/2.
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PostSubject: Re: Nut on Secondary   Nut on Secondary Icon_minitimeSat Jun 15, 2013 10:49 am

ASPENDELL ROVER wrote:
I made  2 cuts just a pussy hair from the threads on the shaft then hit it with the impact and came right off                       LOL!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Nut on Secondary   Nut on Secondary Icon_minitimeSat Jun 15, 2013 3:53 pm

squirt some Kroil penetrant on it and let it set overnight. that shit works wonders bounce
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