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RENEGADE64 wrote:
X2 Port and replace rings,cylinder should be good...maybe run a hone thru it lightly.

I agree....a couple hours spent porting will yield good results and your already in that deep anyway. clean the valves up and throw new rings in.
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cheers


Alba Racing is one of the best companies with whom I have ever done business.



Story time:
After examining my motor, and after reading all of your posts on here, I decided to purchase a new set of piston rings and gaskets from Alba. I ordered these parts, around noon, over the phone. For around $100 I was back in business and was ready to freshen up my motor.

Several hours later, my phone rang. It was Nate from Alba. He said that he had been check out this thread and looking at my pics from the engine disassembly. He knows a lot about motors, and he was trying to understand where the engine oil was going. The engine was consuming oil, but why? The rings looks great. The cylinder looked great.

He asked me about my oil rings.

Nate sent me a text message video asking me to check the gap on the wavy oil ring, and showing me how to do that. He asked me to record a video and send it to him via text message. Shortly after he received my text, he knew why my motor was burning oil...


I had the wrong oil rings in my motor!

The wavy ring was too small. The oil rings did not protrude past the edge of the piston. It was impossible to get the ring to overlap. Nate summarized that if the oil ring could not expand against the wall of the cylinder, then the bottom cast ring was doing all the work of scraping the oil from the cylinder wall. This is why I was burning oil and my oil seemed to get dirty real soon after an oil change!

Nate is sending me a brand new CP piston, new rings, and new gaskets ASAP.

Guys, whoever is reading this, I cannot thank Alba enough for going over and beyond to get me set up right. He didn't have to call me. He didn't have to give me an explanation. But he did. That kind of stuff means a lot to me. I would not hesitate one second to do business with Alba. Don't expect this kind of customer support from some shady craigslist or ebay auction. Alba is the real deal.

I am just beyond happy to know what was finally going on with my motor.


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That's outstanding service !
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That's an awesome guy right there!! glad yall got it figured out.
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thats why i do my business with them!!!...i knew there was something wrong cause these kits are dependable...glad your gonna have her right now
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That's great to hear Chris,I have talked to Nate a few times over the phone,and he doesn't mind spending the time answering all my questions.That is exccellant customer service.Hopefully you will get your motor back togeather.
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Nate's great glad you got it
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Hey Chris, I followed your article from the beginning it has been very useful to me.
Glad you knew the cause of the burning oil. I wish you success. rhino - ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700 - Page 8 2016508534
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Briki wrote:
Hey Chris, I followed your article from the beginning it has been very useful to me.
Glad you knew the cause of the burning oil. I wish you success. rhino - ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700 - Page 8 2016508534

so what did you find out on yours
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Briki wrote:
Hey Chris, I followed your article from the beginning it has been very useful to me.
Glad you knew the cause of the burning oil. I wish you success. rhino - ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700 - Page 8 2016508534

so what did you find out on yours

Hi James,
I have sent a PM to Nate about my problem, and he replied that he would help me to solve it.
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Nate and James stand behind there stuff!....and are great guys!! this is how you build a great business:cheers:!! willing to go the extra mile!!
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I got one more surprise for this motor...
James has me headed in the right direction...
LoL
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I hear what ya saying Chris nothing like headed in the right direction...
to get further ahead of the pack . so let us know what ya did to it now bounce
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And the money pit expands. Glad to see you got that fixed. I was stomped reading all this as well. I'm not that great on four strokes but it looked right to me.

Once you get that thing back right, I wanna see it running with those 30's. I sent a video. Your turn. Lol. Good luck buddy!!!!
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alba are good people i like dealing with them
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ChrisH wrote:
I got one more surprise for this motor...
James has me headed in the right direction...
LoL

So will it have oversized valves to go with the port job?Very Happy
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Thats great news Chris all around good to know about alba I will pass on the word and keep them in mind when the time calls, let us know when its together and HEADED the right direction...lol
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ChrisH wrote:
I got one more surprise for this motor...
James has me headed in the right direction...
LoL

airflow velocity is important because cylinder filling increases as the square of velocity, but only linearly as airflow increases.
think about that one for a minute.
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the more air you put into that cylinder, the more fuel you can put with it...
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It means a lot to hear all of your kind words. Some day's I am just exhausted after a days work, but I can't tell you how much better I feel when I read stuff like this. Thank you all for supporting us at Alba and letting us be a part of your builds.

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Anything new Chris? IM dying to hear/read how this thing has turned out awaiting another quality write up with some burn out pics,lol. and some CVT custom tube tips..
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The Rhino is back running, I hope it'll be running stronger than ever before!

While I had it apart (for the 3rd time, lol) I just caved in to the peer pressure and got one of those heads from James. It's a CNC ported head with +2 valves and Kibble-White valve springs. I retained my Raptor stage 1 cam. I haven't ridden it yet, but I did start it up and check for oil leaks. All looks and sounds great.

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Cant wait that looks awesome after I get the new place shaped up IM gonna need some more JBS parts....
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I am just itching to see what kind of difference the ported head and oversize valves make.
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let me know just how much difference you fill , when I did mine did all at once  can,t say what made the biggest gain just not sure
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I just am utterly amazed at how this Rhino runs!

That head made a pretty big difference. I mean, it almost feels as good with the 30" Bighorns and the ported head as it did with the stock head and 26" Bighorns. I'm about to bolt those 26s on and do some running. 

My Rhino slipped off into a half-dried hole full of peanut butter mud about 5 tall boys into Friday night. This mud instantly covered the whole passenger side of the Rhino, to the top of the tires. The driver side front tire was about half sunk in the cement looking stuff. The driver side rear tire was on dry, hardpack trail with perfect traction. I mean, the motor never even struggled or hesitated when the driver rear axle popped. 

No worries, though!

The new rings and piston make the ol Rhino run great. It never burned a drop of oil, nor did it dirty up the oil even after driving super hard all night. Overall- super, super impressive. This is the way a Rhino should run when you pick it up off the showroom floor. It starts easy, runs cool; it's just overall a nice running motor!
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