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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:22 pm

Holy cow, chris. Well im glad the rings turned out to be ok, I agree on asking james about that leak, and double check your torque. Being patient is one of the best things to be, just dont let frustration get to you. One day at a time my friend. Heck, Im even excited for you on this project..haha. Good Luck.

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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:43 am

i always use just the gasket with no issues...

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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:15 pm

Let me show a picture of the oil leak. Look right above the oil filter and the oil lines. The cylinder base gasket is leaking bad! It's a steady drip when the motor is running.



The only think I can think of that I did wrong was install the cylinder base gasket upside down. There is a little tab that sticks off the gasket. The tab is facing the exhaust side on my motor. I suppose it should be facing the intake side.

Well shucks, it looks like I get to take the motor apart anyway... lol.
I guess I need to order new head and base gaskets, too, huh? They are one time use is what I understood from you guys when I thought I was going to have to pull the motor apart from the wrong rings.

I currently have Cometic gaskets.

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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:28 pm

Head and base gaskets im sure are only a one use deal... they are on all other motors atleast

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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:30 pm

When you tear it down,try to leave the piston in the cylinder and take the piston pin out,that way your rings dont get turned...good luck chris!!

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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:31 pm

Bumpers wrote:
Head and base gaskets im sure are only a one use deal... they are on all other motors atleast
Yep,i would not chance it..i hate to do things twice!

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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:33 pm

i wouldnt reuse them on something like this.... i know its only money but do it right or dont do it at all.... lol

Looking good tho Chris,,,, It happenes to us all when we start doing more motor work.... We just took apart our 660 cause we forgot to snap the piston clip in and the pin came out and slapped the cylinder and cracked the piston... It happens to everyone...

Remember, if it was easy, everyone would have it already done... Good job

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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:43 pm

thats right..its educational...lol...now when you do the crank the top end will be a breeze....lol..

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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:58 pm

Well I just got educated... I ordered a new set of gaskets this morning. Looks like I get to do this little project again! Good thing the gaskets will be here during Holy Week next week Laughing

I swear to you James, I will not put a stroker crank in this thing.

Unless I blow the middle drive gear in some mud hole. Then I'll just pull the whole motor out, box it up, and ship it to you. How's that sound?
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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:08 pm

chris. im like you.. Once i blow my transmission, im boxing it up with a blank check and sending to him as well....

i want a plug n play motor broke in and all.....

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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Sat Mar 23, 2013 3:11 pm

sounds good...lol...i have 4 stock stroke super cranks coming!!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:05 pm

When I go to put the new head and base gaskets in my motor, give me some advice here.

James says to install them dry. One guy on the Grizzly forums claims to spray them with a coat or two of the copper gasket spray. The guys doing big bore kits on the Raptor forums say to put a thin layer of silicone on the base gasket. What do you guys say?

Will it hurt anything to spray the base gasket with the copper gasket spray? I have some on hand. And would you spray the block and the gasket, or just the gasket.

Finally, am I right about me putting the base gasket on upside down the first time? I put the tab facing the exhaust side of the motor. I'm guessing it is supposed to face the intake side, right? The Cometic gaskets did not come with any instructions.

My motor leaks oil real bad right now, and I don't want this thing to be leaking when I re-do this job. Ain't nobody got time for dat!

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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:18 pm

since you bought the kit from alba i would ask nate how he does his.

i don't know the composition of the gasket, but the metal ones that i have seen on other engines don't require any type of additional gasket "sealers" of any kind.

the metal gaskets are designed to absorb & dissipate heat better.

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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:00 pm

I had a base gasket problem one time...spray both sides of the gasket with the copper coat and let it get tacky..then assemble!!no more leaks

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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:00 pm

do not use silicone!!

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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:36 am

The copper coat works well. There's alot of tricks that builders use. No one of them are wrong but no one of them are right. My best opinion is to ask the person you trust the most. So I'd say Nate or James.

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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:48 pm



Man, I'm getting good at tearing this motor down! It took me less than an hour to get this far into my motor. The problem is, I don't want to be good at this, and I'm not sure "good" is the right word.

I'm good at tearing up a motor. I'm good at tearing down a motor. But I'll hold off on the "good" at building a motor until this thing runs without leaking oil (or worse, lol!)

The new gaskets should be at my house tomorrow. I'm planning on working on this motor and putting it back together Wednesday night and just staying up until I finish it. I really, really, really want to ride!

I got a few buddies who have been talking smack about how their big twin cylinder RZR 800, which is stock, is going to whoop up on my little 734cc singe cylinder motor. I'd like to line 'em up and drop the hammer. Then go out in the deep mud and show them how to drive through water deeper than the bottom of the floorboards without getting the belt wet.

But first things first. I got to get this motor going! Pray for me!

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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:56 pm

I understand where your comming from chris...ive spent more time trying to make mine faster and ride better...etc,now i just want to ride!! Hope everything goes smooth for ya!!

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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:32 am

:cheers:Lookin good, hope it works out on the install.

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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:23 pm

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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:24 pm

I am in working on it right now. Holy Cow! Those piston clips are a pain. I just can't get it back in the groove!

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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:33 pm

crossin my fingers for you, chris. hang in there. bounce
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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:38 am

use a pic!

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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:03 am

I got it all put back together! I started it up and ran it for a little while. I can't see oil gushing out of the rear of the engine like last time...

We will see what the daylight brings though.

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PostSubject: Re: ALBA 734 Big Bore for 2011 Rhino 700   Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:12 am

hope all is well on it this time around. I have done that type of thing before and nothing takes the wind out of your sails faster than seeing all that hard work needing to be redone because you missed something.

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