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PostSubject: which is better   Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:49 pm

I am tearing motor Down for middle drive plate update and was thinking about a can update while in there... which is better the (hot cam state 1) or the (hot can mudbuster) or (raptor can) not gonna get crazy with engine build up in future just wanting little more low and grunt... any advice good or bad I wanna hear it so not wasting money on useless parts
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PostSubject: Re: which is better   Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:56 pm

i added a hot cam stage 1 drop in cam in my stock motor it added great low end power an no loss on top if ur looking for more of a low end cam I would stay with a stage 1 or mud buster

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PostSubject: Re: which is better   Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:51 pm

I have the stage 1 and it is great. 

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PostSubject: Re: which is better   Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:58 pm

what else r u doing to the bottom end Question

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PostSubject: Re: which is better   Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:03 pm

Thought about raptor stage one as well.....nothing else to motor other then JBS Sheave
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PostSubject: Re: which is better   Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:20 pm

I 'd take some time to think about your build while you have the motor out an split  would be a good time to freshen up the motor  maybe new timing chain , oil pump   just throwing out thoughts, check your wet clutch maybe slug kit I know that can be done in rhino just a lot easier while on work table

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PostSubject: Re: which is better   Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:18 pm

The stage 1 raptor/stage 2 rhino hotcam that some of us have adds some bottom end over stock with a really nice mid and top end.  I love mine.  Only reason I could see going to the mudbuster or stage 1 rhino cam is if you are looking for max power down low to pull big tires like heavy 27s or bigger through thick mud.

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PostSubject: Re: which is better   Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:49 am

Rhino 727 Guy I bought it off of said he just replaced all that minus pump...will find out once it cones apart....lol....as far as slugging wet clutch what's that all entail.. and probably gonna run raptor stage one can after doing some compArusion... now will I have to change out springs for that can. I know I have to with mudbuster
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PostSubject: Re: which is better   Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:18 am

Yes u will need to change springs with the stage 1 raptor cam

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PostSubject: Re: which is better   Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:04 am

With raptor stage 1 cam is there a loss on low end in a 660...
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PostSubject: Re: which is better   Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:01 pm

Wht07rhino wrote:
Rhino 727 Guy I bought it off of said he just replaced all that minus pump...will find out once it cones apart....lol....as far as slugging wet clutch what's that all entail..  and probably gonna run raptor stage one can after doing some compArusion...  now will I have to change out springs for that can. I know I have to with mudbuster
if you have the motor out an split you will already have the wet clutch out also, so then just get slug kit or weigh out your lead melt an pour into holes in shoes an that's it would make sure wet clutch shoes an drum are good also one way bearing is good while your doing it

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PostSubject: Re: which is better   Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:17 pm

Okay where does one get this slug kit... and what's purpose?
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PostSubject: Re: which is better   Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:01 pm

KMS Performance has a kit, a more solid engagement of the wet clutch at low RPM.

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PostSubject: Re: which is better   Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:03 pm

rhinosport84 wrote:
Yes u will need to change springs with the stage 1 raptor cam
I was under the impression you don't need to chane springs for raptor stage 1 cam. I am currently running one with stock springs (except for raptor center intake spring) and no probs so far. But I am not expert. Would you say they need to be changed for clearance or high RPM?
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