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PostSubject: Guage stays on after key is off   Guage stays on after key is off Icon_minitimeTue Apr 09, 2013 12:51 am

When I turn key off, all the lights stay on for a few and then fade out and I mean everyone of them. Loose connection in key contactor maybe? Also my N light very seldom lights up. Maybe all this is tied together somewhere in dirty connection?
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PostSubject: Re: Guage stays on after key is off   Guage stays on after key is off Icon_minitimeTue Apr 09, 2013 1:34 am

x2 Some of my drive position lights don't come on either and I tried to adjust the shift linkage but still no go?
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PostSubject: Re: Guage stays on after key is off   Guage stays on after key is off Icon_minitimeTue Apr 09, 2013 10:00 am

This is normal if the engine fan is running. It is acting like a generator until it stops turning.
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PostSubject: Re: Guage stays on after key is off   Guage stays on after key is off Icon_minitimeTue Apr 09, 2013 11:06 am

My neutral light hasnt ever worked... It didnt work when i just had the dummy lights and it didnt work when i got the digi dash... its always bugged me because i cant crank it without holding the brake even in neutral... theres only one wire that ive found that runs to the shifter and i have no clue where to even search for the fix... Ive tried moving the shifter and adjusting it... never comes on..


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PostSubject: Re: Guage stays on after key is off   Guage stays on after key is off Icon_minitimeTue Apr 09, 2013 11:13 am

I think that the 'single wire going to the shifter' is actually going to the emergency brake sense switch. My memory often fails me, but look for the gear shift sense switch down lower at the frontmost pivot of the shift linkage, alongside the engine. It sounds like a loose wire/connector or maybe a bad switch contact.
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PostSubject: Re: Guage stays on after key is off   Guage stays on after key is off Icon_minitimeTue Apr 09, 2013 12:19 pm

Thanks, I just got mine and I have it almost completely torn down, LOL. Checking, cleaning, and all that stuff. My wife thinks I am nuts. The N light bugs me and hopefully with this advice I can get if figured out. I am not a big fan of where the oil and rad is located, this may have to be relocated. Seems like it will get poked very easily. This site is the bomb. I have always been amazed at how much knowledge is shared on certain forums. I always try to give back, but I am so late in the game, you guys got it whooped! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Guage stays on after key is off   Guage stays on after key is off Icon_minitimeTue Apr 09, 2013 12:38 pm

Bumpers wrote:
My neutral light hasnt ever worked... It didnt work when i just had the dummy lights and it didnt work when i got the digi dash... its always bugged me because i cant crank it without holding the brake even in neutral... theres only one wire that ive found that runs to the shifter and i have no clue where to even search for the fix... Ive tried moving the shifter and adjusting it... never comes on..


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Check you neutral safety switch, it's located on top of the engine under the air box. I had a similar issue and the wire was making a poor connection. It is a single wire with a 90 degree connector.
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PostSubject: Re: Guage stays on after key is off   Guage stays on after key is off Icon_minitimeTue Apr 09, 2013 5:25 pm

onebuilder wrote:
Bumpers wrote:
My neutral light hasnt ever worked... It didnt work when i just had the dummy lights and it didnt work when i got the digi dash... its always bugged me because i cant crank it without holding the brake even in neutral... theres only one wire that ive found that runs to the shifter and i have no clue where to even search for the fix... Ive tried moving the shifter and adjusting it... never comes on..


sorry for the thread jack

Check you neutral safety switch, it's located on top of the engine under the air box. I had a similar issue and the wire was making a poor connection. It is a single wire with a 90 degree connector.

i know exactly witch one you are talking about.. i just put the motor back in and its in a million pieces.. guess i will try to trace that wire down and see if i can figure it out
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PostSubject: Re: Guage stays on after key is off   Guage stays on after key is off Icon_minitimeTue Apr 09, 2013 10:38 pm

onebuilder wrote:
Bumpers wrote:
My neutral light hasnt ever worked... It didnt work when i just had the dummy lights and it didnt work when i got the digi dash... its always bugged me because i cant crank it without holding the brake even in neutral... theres only one wire that ive found that runs to the shifter and i have no clue where to even search for the fix... Ive tried moving the shifter and adjusting it... never comes on..


sorry for the thread jack

Check you neutral safety switch, it's located on top of the engine under the air box. I had a similar issue and the wire was making a poor connection. It is a single wire with a 90 degree connector.
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It sounds like you ar referring to the Reverse sense switch here. Way too many sensors on this here machine.
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PostSubject: Re: Guage stays on after key is off   Guage stays on after key is off Icon_minitimeTue Apr 09, 2013 11:17 pm

Here is a snapshot out of the service manual. They are not real proud of this, as it is sort of hard to find in the manual. pirat

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PostSubject: Re: Guage stays on after key is off   Guage stays on after key is off Icon_minitimeTue Apr 09, 2013 11:19 pm

Thanks Steve!
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PostSubject: Re: Guage stays on after key is off   Guage stays on after key is off Icon_minitimeTue Apr 09, 2013 11:52 pm

Yes, thank you very much Steve! I have been straining my eyes looking for that dang thing. My N light will not come on at all and it is tough to get it in L, actually to get it in and for the light to come on?
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PostSubject: Re: Guage stays on after key is off   Guage stays on after key is off Icon_minitimeWed Apr 10, 2013 12:20 am

foyota86 wrote:
Yes, thank you very much Steve! I have been straining my eyes looking for that dang thing. My N light will not come on at all and it is tough to get it in L, actually to get it in and for the light to come on?

Perhaps the first thing to do is to try to adjust the linkage such that the shifting lever detents and the transmission are properly aligned. There is an adjustable pushrod between the mechanisms, Both ends of that pushrod are oppositely threaded so that it lenthens or shortens as it is turned. Loosen the lock-nut at one end and you will be able to turn it a small amount one way or the other. Look for improvement as you are adjusting. When you find that sweet spot where everything works properly, tighten that locknut back up.
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PostSubject: Re: Guage stays on after key is off   Guage stays on after key is off Icon_minitimeWed Apr 10, 2013 2:07 pm

I made a slight adjustment to gear linkage, helped a little, still hard to get in L. No N light though. From this pic, is this on the side of belt, looking through the air pipe/duct coming from the belt cover. Kind of like X ray vision, if you know what I mean? To access it take off pipe/duct and air box or just air box?
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PostSubject: Re: Guage stays on after key is off   Guage stays on after key is off Icon_minitimeWed Apr 10, 2013 11:22 pm

I found it, not much to it. If all the other lights work, why wouldn't N? Gremlin maybe? Little shit that this bugs the crap out of me. I gotta get it fixed...
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PostSubject: Re: Guage stays on after key is off   Guage stays on after key is off Icon_minitimeWed Apr 10, 2013 11:35 pm

foyota86 wrote:
I found it, not much to it. If all the other lights work, why wouldn't N? Gremlin maybe? Little shit that this bugs the crap out of me. I gotta get it fixed...

For what it is worth, my neutral has always been a bit quirky, as is the forward gear indicator at times. I have to rock the shifter back and forth sometimes to get the lights to come on and stay on. I suspect that the detenting of whatever trips the switches is a bit unstable. First of all, do you have the digital dash or the idiot light panel? If it is the idiot light, it is just possible that you have a burn out bulb? You might try slowly moving the shift lever and see if the light flickers at all as you are passing through in the region of Neutral. Also, It might be time to get that ohm-meter out and check the wiring and switch for continuity, etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Guage stays on after key is off   Guage stays on after key is off Icon_minitimeThu Apr 11, 2013 1:12 am

I have the digital cluster. I have tried jiggling, tapping, and just about everything else to get the damn thing to come on. It just doesn't make sense, after taking the sensor (or switch) out and looking at it, I don't fully understand how it operates. I see it just has a push style end on it and maybe depending on how far it is in or out (for reverse) determines what to light up. I will dig deeper and probably with multimeter this time. I though my Honda Rancher 400 AT was tricky, this takes the cake! Possible N light (led and be bitch to change out?) in the cluster is out?
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PostSubject: Re: Guage stays on after key is off   Guage stays on after key is off Icon_minitimeFri Apr 12, 2013 12:33 pm

I found the gear position switch and broke one side off of the mutha, epoxied it back and left it alone for now. Never got it out either to clean it or tinker with. The dang N light drives me crazy along with the H and L being on at the same time. Oh well, I have spent more time tearing into it than riding it. Gonna put some miles on it this weekend though!
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