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Workhorserhino

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PostSubject: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeTue Jul 23, 2013 5:50 am

James need pricing on wet clutch parts. Mine starting to slip.I have a 09 700.
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeTue Jul 23, 2013 7:08 am

slug it before you you put it in
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeTue Jul 23, 2013 7:23 am

I thought James was already doing that when you order it.
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeTue Jul 23, 2013 7:27 am

I don't know if he does or not but I would do it regardless.
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeTue Jul 23, 2013 8:14 am

X2 its worth it an from what i read the wet clutch will last alot longer with the slugs
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeTue Jul 23, 2013 10:05 am

its great, even my wife could tell a difference right away.
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeTue Jul 23, 2013 10:41 am

Got all parts on the way including slug kit. 
Thank you hotrod. Great service again.
This becoming a habit of great service.
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeTue Jul 23, 2013 10:49 am

What does it feel like when it's slipping, is it not getting going at light throttle low rpm?
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeTue Jul 23, 2013 11:16 am

I didnt notice a problem on bottom end. 
My top speed is 35 mph and it would sound like the valves
starting to float. Found out from a vid in a post on here
Thats the rev limiter.
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeTue Jul 23, 2013 12:29 pm

I have a pretty heavy rhino in my mind and I like to haul 5 adults on occasion when I am hunting or family just crusing around and I could tell a difference after I install my JBS sheave that I no longer seemed to need to put it in low like I used to and then after I slugged it in conjunction with the JBS sheave holy cow I felt instant movement even when loaded down with 5-6 people and no loss of power where as before it felt like I needed to be in low and still felt like I was slipping it a little or struggling to get moving without have to give it half the pedal.

Slug kits are worth thier weight in brass or lead for sure!!
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeTue Jul 23, 2013 8:37 pm

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I'm not so sure now that this is or was my problem. The wet clutch looks ok to me.
The drum looks fine also. No grooves, coundn't catch a fingernail anywhere I tried, 
Any other opinions?
The problem was hitting rev limiter at 35 mph. Checked on gps, 35 mph was correct.
OD weights installed correct, belt riding about 1/8 in high in secondary when I took
apart tonight.
Gonna put the new stuff in it when it gets here anyway, but not sure its going to fix problem.
No motor mods other than Hotrod sheave.
I do run 27" tires though, would that cause the high rpm at such a low speed?
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeTue Jul 23, 2013 8:51 pm

I wouldn't think hitting the Rev limiter would have anything to do with wet clutch but I could be wrong. Do you have a CDI box of some kind to raise your Rev Limit from 6,000rpm to 8,000rpm? Has it always just hit top speed of 35mph or where you doing 50's before and now all of a sudden your best is 35mph?
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeTue Jul 23, 2013 8:54 pm

I run 27's on my 660 I run 45-47 on GPS I have a DYNATEK CDI box so I have never hit the rev limiter, waiting on my hot rod sheave to arrive as week as the slug kit for the wet clutch. I have 2100 miles on my 660, so far no problems, I am curious to look at my wet clutch tho. Hopefully it's all good, nothing is leading me to believe its bad. My buddy hits his rev limiter in his 09 700 at about 43. Started happening after he put in a "not going to mention" clutch kit. I'm trying to talk him into the JBS.
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeTue Jul 23, 2013 8:57 pm

Yeah a sheave changes your gearing and will effect your rpm's and the weights you put in them are pretty important and James is the expert on that.
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeTue Jul 23, 2013 8:57 pm

If you have a faulty wet clutch it's usually felt down low, your motor will turn more rpm's to get the wet clutch to bite the side of the drum and eventually get the primary moving in turn turning the crank and setting the bike in motion, with higher revs the wet clutch usually still bites good giving you the top end but a loss on the bottom end.
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeFri Jul 26, 2013 9:29 pm

I'm gonna post some pics here of the wet clutch replacement. Hopefully it'll help someone down the road.
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeFri Jul 26, 2013 9:32 pm

Wet clutch slipping P1000117

Scale and lead for weighing out 5.9 grams of lead, per Hotrod's instructions.
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeFri Jul 26, 2013 9:36 pm

Wet clutch slipping P1000118

Tools needed to slug wet clutch
Map gas and 1 stainless steel kitchen spoon
Girlfriend doesn't know that yet.
Sometimes sacrifices must be made.
And the clutch is slugged.
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeFri Jul 26, 2013 9:38 pm

Wet clutch slipping P1000119

New slugged wet clutch installed.
New nut tightened up and flat peened down.
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeFri Jul 26, 2013 9:39 pm

Wet clutch slipping P1000120

One way bearing installed.
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeFri Jul 26, 2013 9:41 pm

Wet clutch slipping P1000121

Again one way bearing installed, seems to be a lot questions on this.
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeFri Jul 26, 2013 9:43 pm

Wet clutch slipping P1000122

New clutch housing with new pilot in it and drum assembly.
Torque bolts to 8 ft lbs.
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeFri Jul 26, 2013 9:47 pm

Wet clutch slipping P1000123

This pic is of the primary clutch installed.
to determine if your od weights are in correctly look at holes
in the camplate.
If it looks to be even at all 4 holes the weights should be ok.
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeFri Jul 26, 2013 9:54 pm

Put the rest of it together and drove it.
Wow, what a big improvement on take off.
Power is there, no lag.
Plus I think its smoother clutch engagement.
This is another awesome upgrade from James.
Thank you very much James and Nikki for
sharing your knowledge with me and everybody.
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PostSubject: Re: Wet clutch slipping   Wet clutch slipping Icon_minitimeSat Jul 27, 2013 12:26 pm

Nice job,took mine apart last night to slug the clutch,and service the whole cvt,change oil and filter and do the brakes,getting her ready for some w.v. fall riding...YEEHAW!! Cant wait............
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