what cam for slow technical trail riding and maximum torque

i am going to be changing some things up on my rhino and i will be putting 28s under it.  i will be doing lots of slow technical riding but when i give it throttle it needs to be instant.  what cam would be best for that, im guessing its not the stage3 i have now.

I havent got to crawl around too much yet with my new stage2 cam but so far just dead stop take offs feel about the same till about 10mph and then the speedo starts jumping in intervals of 4mph till I am at about 53mph then its single digits to 59mph. I will know more about my cam after I crawl around in the creek and pull somethings this weekend at the cabin.

You can have my factory cam if you want it other wise I am going to bring it to work and use it as a paper weight!

I love mine for the slow stuff, but I'm running 25s.  May be a diferent story with 28s.

thePayne wrote:

I havent got to crawl around too much yet with my new stage2 cam but so far just dead stop take offs feel about the same till about 10mph and then the speedo starts jumping in intervals of 4mph till I am at about 53mph then its single digits to 59mph. I will know more about my cam after I crawl around in the creek and pull somethings this weekend at the cabin.

 Well I pulled my 60" pull behind bush hog last night for about 3hrs in high running 0-5mph and the Stage2 cam feels more torque than stock for sure its like an instant explosion if you if your moving and smash the pedal all I can say is Stage2 cam is BADASS!!

I'm with Rodney, it's perfect for what I do, crawling thru rocks, doing 5-10mph on the trail, hammering down thru a stretch of mud in 4x4, or hauling butt down the road!!!!

how is it right off idle with your 28's, i dont want any lag at all.  when i hit the pedal i want it there instantly.

Randy your close to me and Kevin we need to get together and ride you ever go to moccasin gap?

Any lag with this cam will be from the wet clutch, tune, or tire size.  This cam feels like added engine size as soon as you touch it.  If it doesn't do what you wan't it to do with this cam, then you need to look at some other mods for help.  It's got it right as soon as you touch the gas.  Huge bang for the buck.

With the right clutch work, the torque will be there. I'm just the opposite as everyone else. I'd go stage one or stock raptor cam. I think it will smooth out the whole power curve better and even, and with the brazzar you have with auto tune, you will have the hard low end grunt. That's just my opinion. I know my cam has a good but of lag off idle when u mash it. Rolling into the throttle is different but I'm snorkled which makes air delivery different. I'd really like to try a stage one in mine to see a difference. I know for my trial/mud/water riding, stage 2 is overkill.

Kevin its all just money man throw your factory cam back in it and see if its what you want since you still have it  and its only labor to swap it out. You can ride mine this weekend and see if you like the stage2 cam and how it feels as with all the crap I have on my rhino it would still be heavier than yours with 28's on it. Hell quit sending me pics of Vikings with 30's on them at stock height your making me want to swap mine for one in camo with 30's on it!

I think the 30's would rub hard tho. I seen that pic to. Wish they would make a lift. Then it would be one hell of a machine if you could get the air box from under the seat. Stupid idea.

I cant help but think that viking with 30s has to be as big as a jeep and a huge turd in factory form with 30s.

Banchee good call on the stock raptor cam. I have 2 local guys here wanting my stage 3 cam for their raptors so I think we are going to do dome swapping and its going to be my cheapest way to swap cams.

I just rode the new Viking at lunch and it was pretty smooth riding and seemed to have nice amount of torque just crusing around. It was weird not to be elbow to elbow with your buddy and the cab noise was little louder than a rhino since you can look down behind seat and see motor there is no dust stop between you and it just back of seat and bed with gap. I did hit 47mph pretty quick I will say felt like my rhino when I was setup with stock sheave,14gr weights and gold spring and CDI. This was a non power steering model fixing to go to Field and Stream magazine and it wasnt bad to steer at all.

ok, got the cam deal worked out.  traded my stage 3 for a factory raptor cam installed.  it should go in sometime next week.

thePayne wrote:

Randy your close to me and Kevin we need to get together and ride you ever go to moccasin gap?

 Yep, go 2or3 times a year, used to ride horses there. I like Mt. Magazine better. Let's go sometime.

Randy3451 wrote:

thePayne wrote:

Randy your close to me and Kevin we need to get together and ride you ever go to moccasin gap?

 Yep, go 2or3 times a year, used to ride horses there. I like Mt. Magazine better. Let's go sometime.

 Yeah I'd be down for a camp out and ride and I know Kevin would too once his hand gets better where he can hold the wheel!

What about the auto tune, worth it, how much? I bug James all the time about maps, is it worth it?

Randy3451 wrote:

What about the auto tune, worth it, how much? I bug James all the time about maps, is it worth it?

Yeah I like them and they are simple to use and get you tuned out fairly quick. What I like verse a dyno is its real world tuning while riding vs a air conditioned room and a machine.

new cam goes in aug 22.  after looking over the power curves of all these cams im pretty sure im going to like the way the stock raptor cam performs.  no more mods for me until i get some safety issues addressed like cage upgrade and 4 point harnesses that banchee hooked me up with.

Cant wait to see how she runs!!

Ive ran all the cams and the mudbuster and the raptor stage 1 cam worked  the best for me,the mudbuster worked great right off the bottom..instant throttle response but lacked on the run where your running 45+,the stage 1 raptor cam does the best for me, it still has good bottom but has great midrange and top end pull without being a topend cam,the mudbuster would be great for mud and rock crawling,but the stage 1 raptor cam is a great all round trail cam.ive ran raptor stage 1-2-3 and megacycle x-4 cams but I liked the stage 1 raptor cam the best.hope this helps

isnt the stage 1 raptor cam the same as the stage 2 rhino cam.

If  I were just going thru mud and rock crawling only and running big tires...I would go with the mudbuster cam for sure!! it builds more compression on bottom end!

thekevin wrote:

isnt the stage 1 raptor cam the same as the stage 2 rhino cam.

 Yep,stage 2 rhino cam =stage 1 raptor cam,stage 3 rhino=stage 2 raptor cam.which makes power in the top end range.

Mike, I hardly ever do over 20mph, trails and mud, but almost always have my big mud tires on. I can do 44mph with the big tires in low range with the stage 1 raptor. I don't care about top end speed, I want as much hole shot bottom end power as I can get!! Is there a big enough difference in the mud buster for me to swap out? Thanks.