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PostSubject: HELP!!! Where does this bolt go?   HELP!!! Where does this bolt go? Icon_minitimeTue Apr 30, 2013 11:23 pm

I was looking around the engine compartment preparing to install the siphon break coming from JBS, and I saw this bolt laying on the skids under the engine, next to the oil lines. I started the Rhino w/out the engine cover on and I don't see oil coming out of anywhere, so I hope it's not important. BTW, my buddy I got the rhino from had the engine rebuilt about 2 months ago, right before I got, and the rhino has been on 4 rides w/out any problems. This past sunday, towards the end of the ride, I got some oil on the skids, but I know its from the crankcase breather hose that is just pointed down towards the skid.
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PostSubject: Re: HELP!!! Where does this bolt go?   HELP!!! Where does this bolt go? Icon_minitimeTue Apr 30, 2013 11:30 pm

look around towards the front of the motor on the sides of the motor ,on the passengers side,might be one of those plugs??
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Also check the oil drain plug??underneath
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PostSubject: Re: HELP!!! Where does this bolt go?   HELP!!! Where does this bolt go? Icon_minitimeTue Apr 30, 2013 11:32 pm

I would not crank that motor untill u find out where it came loose from!!!
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PostSubject: Re: HELP!!! Where does this bolt go?   HELP!!! Where does this bolt go? Icon_minitimeTue Apr 30, 2013 11:36 pm

I thought oil plug till you turned it over not sure being hollow ? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: HELP!!! Where does this bolt go?   HELP!!! Where does this bolt go? Icon_minitimeTue Apr 30, 2013 11:39 pm

maybe magnet came out of plug
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PostSubject: Re: HELP!!! Where does this bolt go?   HELP!!! Where does this bolt go? Icon_minitimeWed May 01, 2013 12:46 am

It looks like part of the trans. Their should also be a ball and spring. It screws into the case near the shift cover on front pass side of the engine, and the ball goes into the shift drum. It's called the shift drum stopper.
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Good thing you found it!
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onebuilder wrote:
It looks like part of the trans. Their should also be a ball and spring. It screws into the case near the shift cover on front pass side of the engine, and the ball goes into the shift drum. It's called the shift drum stopper.
I think your right,one of those came loose on a friend of mines rhino and he started loosing oil,luckely he stopped and we fixed it.i think there is some kind of sealing ring that goes around that bolt also...copper
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onebuilder wrote:
It looks like part of the trans. Their should also be a ball and spring. It screws into the case near the shift cover on front pass side of the engine, and the ball goes into the shift drum. It's called the shift drum stopper.

I did also find a ball on the skid plate, but no spring or sealing washer. Thank you so much for the heads-up. I looked all over the case and didn't find an empty hole, but I'll start looking in the region you mentioned. Any idea where I could find an exploded diagram to look at? Also, what about the spring?
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Ok, found the exploded diagram for it, I'm going to call my local dealer and see if they have the spring and the washer. Does anybody know how long that spring is? I work at Napa, so we have springs in stock.
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PostSubject: Re: HELP!!! Where does this bolt go?   HELP!!! Where does this bolt go? Icon_minitimeWed May 01, 2013 9:37 am

Does anyone have a picture of the front of the engine? Just trying to get an idea of where the plug goes.
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PostSubject: Re: HELP!!! Where does this bolt go?   HELP!!! Where does this bolt go? Icon_minitimeWed May 01, 2013 9:39 am

I don't remember the length. The ball is 3/8 and you can figure out the spring diameter from the cap bolt.
Drop the ball in and take calipers to measure the length.
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Chief1979 wrote:
Ok, found the exploded diagram for it, I'm going to call my local dealer and see if they have the spring and the washer. Does anybody know how long that spring is? I work at Napa, so we have springs in stock.

With a spring and a ball, it is likely either a check valve or pressure relief valve. The set pressure of the valve could be important and that is determined by the force exerted by the spring. Outside diameter, wire diameter, number of turns and length determine what the force exerted ends up being. Getting a stock replacement would be the safe way to go.
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Ok, awesome. The ball will stick out with the spring installed, right? This is for the detent inside the transmission, right? One last question, what oil should I be running in it?
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PostSubject: Re: HELP!!! Where does this bolt go?   HELP!!! Where does this bolt go? Icon_minitimeWed May 01, 2013 9:57 am

Steve, from my understanding, it is for the detent when you shift the gears! I have the factory part numbers for the replacement parts, so I'm going to try and go that way. Thanks
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Chief1979 wrote:
Ok, found the exploded diagram for it, I'm going to call my local dealer and see if they have the spring and the washer. Does anybody know how long that spring is? I work at Napa, so we have springs in stock.

With a spring and a ball, it is likely either a check valve or pressure relief valve. The set pressure of the valve could be important and that is determined by the force exerted by the spring. Outside diameter, wire diameter, number of turns and length determine what the force exerted ends up being. Getting a stock replacement would be the safe way to go.

Aren't those parts located inside of tHe oil filter adapter? I agree on any relief or check valve situation to use the specified spring.

But, in this case I believe it is the shift drum stop.
#18 on the shift drum/fork diagram.
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Agreed, if it is a detent spring, it is not going to be critical at all.
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Ok, finally found a pic of where the bolt goes. Woo Hoo. Now I just need to find the factory parts. Thanks for the quick replies fellas, top notch help on here.
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Went home during lunch and found the ball and the spring!! HELP!!! Where does this bolt go? 2016508534 Got me a gasket for it here at work, and will assemble everything tonight. Thanks for all the help.
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PostSubject: Re: HELP!!! Where does this bolt go?   HELP!!! Where does this bolt go? Icon_minitimeWed May 01, 2013 7:20 pm

cool you found the spring may want to use the lock tight treads (blue)
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Thats right,and make sure you get all the oil off the threads first.
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PostSubject: Re: HELP!!! Where does this bolt go?   HELP!!! Where does this bolt go? Icon_minitimeWed May 01, 2013 9:31 pm

Oh yeah, loctite is my friend. From having owned a couple 70's jeeps, I use that stuff on everything. I used non-cloro brk cleaner to clean the threads on the bolt, and used some brk cleaner on a rag to clean out the threads inside of the hole. Then I verified that it shifted correctly.
Once again, thanks for the help fellas.
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Chief1979 wrote:
Went home during lunch and found the ball and the spring!! HELP!!! Where does this bolt go? 2016508534 Got me a gasket for it here at work, and will assemble everything tonight. Thanks for all the help.

WOW! You got lucky!

You might want to go get a lottery ticket! LOL!
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onebuilder wrote:
Chief1979 wrote:
Went home during lunch and found the ball and the spring!! HELP!!! Where does this bolt go? 2016508534 Got me a gasket for it here at work, and will assemble everything tonight. Thanks for all the help.

WOW! You got lucky!

You might want to go get a lottery ticket! LOL!

Yeah, I sure did. They were laying on the skid plate on some mud!! I was going to pressure wash everything before I worked on it, glad I didn't do that. LOL
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